Ok, I am going to limit my comments to only two:
1) I honestly had a hard time listening to this entire conversation. One person used the word "vacuous" in describing this interview. Maybe too kind. Ok, for me, there was something quite odd about McDonald in this dialogue. I was certain that Driscoll would be the one I was most put off by on this topic…surprise. BTW – At the beginning, why did Driscoll keep interrupting Dever, when Dever was simply giving a common lexical definition of "ecclesia." Seriously?
2) Read my blog on this topic for more of my thoughts on this. I actually had some resonance with Dever here, although he let them off the hook way too easy (although, I can see why he just stood down, because they weren't listening to him anyway). Here is the link to the past blog: A Multi-Site Rant
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wow wow wow wow wow. So I stopped about 5 minutes in, I just couldn’t take any more. My favorite moment though is when Mark says that by doing video venue they are less relient on him than if he was there because people can’t talk to him.
First… God forbid people talk to a pastor. Second if that’s what you believe record 15 different people and beam them everywhere instead of the Mark Driscoll show.
The whole thing is just ludicrous to me but also shows how much we’ve trained people that the reason you go to church is to be entertained – to have a captivating sermon preached from your favorite personality. I’m not bagging on great preachers, thank God for them, but when it becomes all about that persons preaching, doesn’t humility that it’s about Jesus dictate that it’s time to step out of the spotlight a bit?
There’s a pastor here in Portland whos church started to explode because he was getting known as the cool edgy pastor with all the tattoos and piercings and spiked hair. I love his response when this happened, he shaved his head took out all but 2 of his piercings and started wearing long sleeves. We need more stories like that!
This was ridiculous. I find it interesting that Driscoll kept saying that multi-site–or for him any site–is about influence and movement. But then he kept saying that multi-site is less about the pastor. I can’t stand this crap. What ever happened to relational ministry? Talk about non-biblical. There more interested in structure and having male leadership than building relationships. Paul didn’t write a letter for every weak to all of his churches so that it could be read on the sabbath. These churches met independently and Paul would write letters and visit, but he handed off leadership and oversight roles to other people.
I am so sick of pastoral rock stars! What Driscoll and the guy with the gotee (don’t know his name) are concerned with is the breadth of their influence and the depth of their legacy. I’m not saying there aren’t good things coming out of their church, but I am saying that these pastors are starting to look more and more like celebrities and their congregants like groupies.
I don’t have sympathy for this stuff.
My feeling exactly Kar – How can American Christianity go wrong with “Superstars” like this leading the way?
oh my gosh. i couldn’t even get past the 2 minute mark. driscoll and the guy with the glasses are so defensive and pretentious. too annoying.